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| Author: | Bovine Juice [ Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Tax avoider's quest to destroy competition continues |
Interesting article and there are obvious benefits for the consumer but this has potentially dire consequences for other music retailers. For those of us who still prefer going in record shops that's a really bad thing. |
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| Author: | KevW [ Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tax avoider's quest to destroy competition continues |
I had a gander at this idea the other day. I actually think it's a good move. Basically, I think whatever happens, the middlemen (shops) are disappearing. And I'm not talking music - I'm talking most things. This is why there are less shops on high streets - not music shops, shops selling just about everything. The upshot is that bands will sell more CDs and vinyl, even if it is through Amazon or whatever - and hopefully this will lead to physical products being desirable again, and in turn lead to more being made. What needs to happen is that the service needs to extend to smaller labels. Take, for example Odd Box. I bet Trev would give an arm and a leg for another dozen independent shops to pop up and offer to sell his releases, but at the moment that's highly unlikely. Until rates come down and people can afford to lease a sales unit for a lower price, therefore being able to operate at lower profit margins which will only happen when the government act to revive town centres. But how about if Amazon was willing to stock a 100 copies limited vinyl run and give the downloads to everyone who bought the record? Surely this would provide an outlet for smaller labels? It won't be the same as going into a record shop - no way - but maybe if the demand for physical does increase, the generation that have skipped it altogether will be a one-off and the next lot of music buyers will be used to records and begin showing an interest in shops again? Include a download code with the vinyl in the shops so they can stick the tunes on their iPhone or whatever and listen to the vinyl when at home. There isn't going to be a revival in record shops nationwide with the way things are, but perhaps if the attitude to physical releases changes there may be a slow increase in the future... |
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| Author: | Bola [ Fri Jul 05, 2013 2:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tax avoider's quest to destroy competition continues |
I order most of my vinyl (and CD's) through bandcamp these days. I get to download in a format of my choice when ordering and waiting for the physical product, regardless of format, to arrive. Mind you as posted elsewhere I would rather have a CDR copy of the album than a download code if buying from a record shop and I have noticed that this is on the increase. |
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| Author: | milchman [ Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tax avoider's quest to destroy competition continues |
I actually used the free download that came with an album I bought recently for the first time, but only because it included a couple of bonus tracks. Normally I just give them away. |
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| Author: | Trev [ Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tax avoider's quest to destroy competition continues |
It's a good thing, especially if more retailers follow suit. Most record shops are fairly rubbish. And should be closed. |
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| Author: | Bovine Juice [ Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tax avoider's quest to destroy competition continues |
I hope Trev's wishes don't come true. A world without record shops would be a very sad place indeed for many of us. I've just spent a day in Brick Lane, Dalston, Stoke Newington and Greenwich, rummaging through records and CDs. A lovely day out and one album was a spontaneous purchase purely because I heard it whilst in there. I also think the short term benefits of what Amazon are doing will be lost if they slowly kill off other retailers, online or physical. I for one do not want yet another huge nasty tax dodging corporation to be dictating who, what and where I purchase. |
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| Author: | Simon Los Love [ Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tax avoider's quest to destroy competition continues |
Mr Juice are there any 2nd hand record shops that have boxes of records for £1-£2 in this London that I might have missed? The last time I went back to Cardiff I spent about an hour in 3 such record shops there & spent a small fortune on loads of stuff I wouldn't normally buy. And Wings records. |
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| Author: | Trev [ Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tax avoider's quest to destroy competition continues |
| Author: | Trev [ Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tax avoider's quest to destroy competition continues |
| Author: | Bovine Juice [ Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tax avoider's quest to destroy competition continues |
| Author: | Bovine Juice [ Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tax avoider's quest to destroy competition continues |
What has been happening with books will happen with music. Markmiwurdz... I've not bought anything from Amazon in 2013 and tax avoidance is only one reason. |
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| Author: | Bola [ Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tax avoider's quest to destroy competition continues |
A number of CD's I have previously bought from Amazon are now available for me to stream or download via an Amazon Cloud account I didn't know I had. There are some CD's on there I forgot I even owned ho hum.............. |
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