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We are still fairly spoilt in London but we can't assume anything and venues closing elsewhere will inevitably have an impact on the ability of foreign bands to tour UK and new bands up north to ever get beyond the bedroom.

High time the music industry, which is a huge earner for UK, got some of the breaks afforded to other industries to ensure it not only survives but prospers.

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I can't book the venue again after last night because bands won't play the venue at the moment and punters won't go there. I also don't know exactly what happened, but this is disturbing enough for me to not want to go back as a promoter.

My account of the thing is limited - I posted this on the brixton forum earlier today:


Here's what I know. The Tuts finished their set, their singer was a little drunk I'd say. She had apparently brought in her own bottle of Vodka (unknown to me). I had stepped outside to get the next band ready etc. Then I see the singer and friends being thrown out of the side door.

After asking what happened I was told their was an altercation between the landlord and the singer. I was outside so can't say what happened with any certainty. I have no idea what was said and who did what. At some point after this the police were called. I wasn't party to these conversations. The singer had left when they arrived although a few friends/other band members were still there. The Landlord was involved in a heated exchange with some people at the front of the venue when his actions were questioned. The Landlord said everyone bar the singer was allowed to come back in.

I gave the other two bands that were left to play the option of cancelling the show, they thought it best the show went on (One of the bands was playing London for the first time and are over from the USA).

The Tuts arrived 15 minutes before they were due on stage. There was no rider as I prefer to pay the bands decent money than spend it on cheap booze. If I was to provide a rider, I'd have less money to pay the bands. That's the way all of my shows at The Windmill have run previously with no issues.

As a promoter I've booked and enjoyed the venue many times with no trouble. Sadly, last night will be the last time I use the venue for my shows as I'll not be able to get my crowd back at the venue.

Can't argue with any of that Trev.

I do have a problem with people who weren't there tweeting calls to boycott the venue based on hearsay and rather dubious third hand accounts of what happened. Tim's a top fella as are all the other staff down there and personally I've always got on very well with Seamus.

Oh and are we allowed to now go on Facebook and Twitter and call Trev a bad promoter for this shambles?

Hehe!

I retweeted what The Tuts posted on Twitter. I wasn't there myself but read various reports about last night and a previous incident. So there's obviously a problem somewhere and I had no qualms about passing their message on after hearing other accounts.

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Here's what Char saw as she was inside at the time and she's just come in from work:

I was in the room when the trouble started. Seamus dashed over to where the band were, there was some shouting, then he went to grab the singer in the way that bouncers grab someone to bundle them out of the room, I.e. arms around their body to contain them and so it's easier to move them. She moved so he actually ended up grabbing her hair. Then it all moved outside. I think he could have handled the situation better by talking rather than acting but it didn't look like an aggressive assault to me. Unfortunately the shouting that continued outside the venue from Seamus and a couple of their regular punters in the faces of people who weren't involved at all in the scuffle was aggressive and unnecessary.

I think I'd trust Charlotte more than any of the others posting away. She was probably sober for a start.

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Definitely isn't inbred...has the GCSEs to prove it!

REVOLUTION PURITY LOVE SUICIDE ACCURACY

http://www.thesoundofconfusion.com

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Definitely isn't inbred...has the GCSEs to prove it!

REVOLUTION PURITY LOVE SUICIDE ACCURACY

http://www.thesoundofconfusion.com

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Definitely isn't inbred...has the GCSEs to prove it!

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